Trevor was a pleasure to work with. Highly recommended.

Trevor is the best! He was thorough and professional, and great to work with. He kept us apprised about available appointments and was very prompt in answering all our queries throughout the process. He was honest and forthright- no games. After dealing with a few other brokers in the Calgary area and being disappointed, we felt lucky to find Trevor Ramage.

Trevor was a pleasure to work with. My family has sold and purchased many homes with Cardinal By Trevor Ramage; he is a true trusted professional.

Over the years, we have bought and sold several (at least 10) properties, and Trevor Ramage has been the best realtor we have worked with. Trevor is professional, an excellent communicator, and gave us solid market advice. A most sincere thank you for your services, Trevor.

My wife and I recently bought our first home with Trevor's help. It was a tricky time to be in the market, but he was able to support us through finding properties that met our needs, scheduling showings, making offers, and eventually coordinating the purchase and closing of the house we ended up buying. We had a surprisingly easy time all around, and we're really glad we had Trevor on our side!

We chose to work with Trevor because of his experience and local knowledge. We found Trevor to be very professional, helpful and responsive, whether it be advice on staging and small property improvements or on market intelligence, managing offers and closing the deal. We'd be happy to work with Trevor again and recommend him without hesitation.

Trevor is one of the best realtors that we worked with. Professional, knowledgeable, on time, and ready to answer any question we might have. From the moment you meet Trevor, you know that you are working with an exceptional realtor. Even before we became his clients, he gave us his professional opinion on the price of our house in the market and the strategy we need to follow to sell it. He spent a couple of hours doing that for us for free and with a smile. That shows the true generous and kind nature of Trevor. I would not ask for another realtor for our future sell or buy. Thank you very much, Trevor, you are the best. 

We met Trevor when we moved from the States to Calgary in 2010 and we were impressed by his knowledge of the NW market but also with his low-key demeanour; he doesn't pressure or use any slick salesmen type of tricks. Totally honest, straightforward and professional. So when we decided to move to Springbank, we did not hesitate to have him represent us on the sale of the home he originally found for us (which we loved). He did a great job during winter in a bifurcated type market.

Trevor was outstanding in both helping us find our home and helping us sell our previous house. I would highly recommend him to buyers and sellers.

I worked with Trevor on the sale of my inner-city modern family home. It was important to me to work with the top realtor in the area, to ensure that the house was marketed appropriately and sold in an efficient way. From my very first call with Trevor, through to all of the meetings with him, he was always responsive, approachable, down-to-earth and completely professional. He put as much care and focus into the house staging and photo shoot as I did, and I was thrilled with the photos we ended up with. Trevor’s styles exudes warmth, and he consistently demonstrated his expertise and market knowledge throughout negotiations and the entire sale process. I would certainly work with Trevor again and would highly recommend him!

Great agent and very knowledgeable!! Trevor was very responsive to our questions. We will use his services again without hesitation.

Trevor was incredibly professional and supportive throughout the entire process of selling our house.  From the initial consultation through to the listing of the house and the closing of the deal, I had full confidence in Trevor's abilities to meet our needs.

Trevor helped us navigate a difficult market with nothing but professionalism and integrity the entire time.  Our family has always called on Trevor when we needed advice and help with the real estate market in Calgary.  We have all been totally impressed and satisfied every time.

Trevor was great. Knowledgeable, professional and kind. He was honest and accurate about what my home would sell for. It sold in a day over list price and with no conditions. It was a huge relief.  He helped make the difficult process of selling my longtime home and the purchase of a new home a lot easier. I'm grateful for his expertise and I would highly recommend him.

Trevor Ramage was right in his market assessment, we sold our home in one day. He was timely, consistent, on-call always and never failed to respond to our requests or our other home buying needs. Decent fellow, honest and did all he could to facilitate our buying and selling. All in all, I give him a 9.5 out of 10 for the whole experience. And I would trust him with selling again and buying a new home. The market is not an easy place right now in real estate, but one must start trust somewhere. I would start with Trevor Ramage.

Can’t say enough about Trevor and his assistant. Incredibly helpful, polite and patient. Answered all of our questions, and if he didn’t know, got back to us ASAP. Would not hesitate to recommend him to others, and would definitely use him again in the future.

Trevor was thorough and professional during a stressful move from Ontario to Calgary. Due to the Covid-19 Pandemic, we could not come and view properties and needed to rely 100% on virtual visits. Not only did Trevor provide accurate information, but he also went above and beyond to make this transaction as easy and stress-free as possible.

We would highly recommend Trevor for any professional real estate transaction - for a people-first experience.

Trevor is the most professional realtor we have come across. He provided great options based on the aspects we discussed with him and also gave great advice when we were looking at those options. He only provided options that were within the requirements we listed and we always felt like he was identifying new options right when they came on the market. He was also a great sounding board when it came to negotiations and was always looking out for our best interests to make sure we ended up with a home we would truly enjoy. We ended up getting a house that hit all of our key points and in the price range we had initially discussed with him. We also used Trevor to sell our house and he did a fantastic job of recommending a price range based on the market, arranging the photography and marketing materials on the house and arranging showings considering our busy work schedules. We sold our house quickly and got the price we wanted. I would highly recommend Trevor to anyone looking to buy a house or sell their house.

Trevor is the consummate real estate professional.  His advice is honest, timely and empathetic.  Trevor was patient and helpful in dealing with unexpected "surprises" on the sale of my home.  He is very hardworking and put in the time and effort required to sell my home in a difficult market in West Hillhurst during the 4th quarter of 2020.  When it came down to the final deal negotiation, Trevor was confident and experienced and provided clear advice on what it would take to get the deal done.

Trevor was thorough and professional in all of our communications. He balanced tough market conditions with our desire to be patient and get a fair price for our unique home. In the end, he got one of the highest sales prices in Elbow Valley in nearly 3 years.

We worked with Trevor to buy and sell our house in West Hillhurst. In both scenarios, his commitment to us was evident. His knowledge of the community helped us get plugged in, as well as gave us confidence in the pricing strategy.  He was patient and resourceful during the process. We would certainly recommend him whether you are buying or selling your home.

We asked Trevor to step out of his comfort zone when we asked him to help us find a small rural acreage.  Trevor’s professionalism and patience with both ourselves and some very difficult sellers were incredible. He was able to broker a deal for our dream getaway and we will be forever grateful. Thanks for everything Trevor. 

After 2 years of having our house listed, and two real estate agents later, Trevor was the one who was able to get the sale done. He was honest with us in terms of the price we should expect and did not try and “buy the listing” by promising a listing price that was not realistic. In the end, we received 3 offers all at the same price. A testament that the price we listed was realistic even though it was below what we paid for the home 10 years ago.

Trevor, Thank you again most sincerely for providing to me such excellent advice and service. The home you found me is perfect and I am just now scratching the surface on all it has to offer. A particular thanks for the gift basket. I do hope we stay in touch — I’m very interested in learning more about this unique community and I’ve already made some new friends on the block. Cheers

After being completely consumed with our major home renovation, we are finally able to capture our experience with Trevor Ramage of Cardinal. Several years ago, I had the pleasure of meeting Trevor when I was joining a friend search for their new family home. I found him extremely patient, kind, honest, knowledgeable and not in a hurry or pushy. Therefore, when it came time to make our transition, it was natural for us to call for his assistance. Both our transactions were completed quickly, professionally and seamlessly. Trevor was always there to respond to any of our questions and concerns. Being a longtime realtor and raised in Calgary, Trevor also had recommendations of contacts for some of our other needs which was crucial. We still keep in touch with Trevor and would highly recommend him with no hesitation. Thank you Trevor

I have already recommended you to anyone who may need a realtor. I found dealing with you very easy. You were prompt, professional, and knowledgeable. And, to top it off, you are a genuinely nice guy. We are very pleased with the outcome of our listing and that has a lot to do with you. A big thanks!

We were lucky enough to find such a loyal, honest and efficient realtor to help us purchase our family home. Trevor was completely reliable, always available and extremely knowledgeable about the property, the area and the current market. I would hands down recommend him and look forward to working together again in the future.

It was a pleasure working with Trevor to purchase our family home. He was genuine, honest, trustworthy, efficient, knowledgeable and very much to the point. We cannot say enough positive things about our experience with him. We had met other realtors, but immediately felt at ease with Trevor from our very first encounter and knew that we were in good hands. We most certainly will be using him again in the future and would recommend him to anyone without hesitation. We truly appreciated his professionalism and honesty. Thank you Trevor!

My wife and I enjoyed working with Trevor Ramage. He was a consummate professional. He attended every concern we had immediately and he worked tirelessly to maximize the number of showings of our dwelling. Trevor was personable, honest and very informative. We could not have been more pleased.

As first time home buyers we greatly appreciated Trevor's experience and guidance. We looked at several houses - Trevor was patient and let us form our own opinions, while being sure to educate us on features of the home that could affect resale value. Trevor listened to our requests for what we wanted in a new home, but was also sure to show us properties that were a good investment. Trevor is a strong negotiator and guided us through offers & negotiations. He took care of all the paperwork promptly & thoroughly which made for a smooth closing. We truly felt Trevor had our best interest at heart throughout the home buying process. As second generation clients, we would highly recommend Trevor to anyone looking to buy or sell a property.

Trevor is extremely professional and efficient. His expertise assisted in completing a purchase in a timely manner. His background, reputation and connections made the process easy. When it came to appraisals and market knowledge, he was very accurate. I would recommend working with him again.

Our experience working with Trevor has been a pleasure and was far and away the best of all our interactions with any realtors to date. Trevor provided good options that met our requirements, while still allowing us time and space to feel out other possibilities. His experience and skill in the business was very apparent in how he estimated an accurate sale price and suggested bidding strategies that would be most appropriate for specific properties resulting in an upside on both our sale and purchase. Integrity in sales can be a rare commodity and Trevor exhibited that at all times during our interactions, which made for a comfortable and relaxed experience. I wouldn’t hesitate to put our trust in Trevor again and would highly recommend him to anyone for a sale, purchase or both.

We have recently used Trevor Ramage for the sale of our home. We are very pleased with the service that Trevor provided us. Our home was marketed very professionally, with Trevor and his photographer creating a stunning brochure. Trevor is always very friendly, honest, extremely prompt and a pleasure to work with. He provided us with great advice during our negotiating process and the transaction was very seamless. We highly recommend Trevor Ramage if you are looking to buy or sell a property in Calgary!

After meeting Trevor to view one of his listings on our own without a realtor, we quickly decided we wanted him to represent us in our search and purchase of a new home.

Trevor is extremely knowledgeable, insightful, professional, and honest. He viewed dozens of listings with us and we never once felt pressured to make a decision, or put in an offer. We highly recommend anyone buying or selling a home to use Trevor’s services. He is a true legend in Calgary real-estate and we will always be thankful we found him.

As a first time home buyer, I was nervous and unsure of many things. Trevor is extremely knowledgeable and was great at explaining everything to me and reassuring me anytime I had any concerns. With this being my first home, I included my parents in my buying decision, Trevor communicated not only with me but also my parents, which we all appreciated.

Trevor was able to recommend a mortgage broker, a very qualified home inspector, and an extremely thorough real estate lawyer to finalize my purchase. He was also able to negotiate a great price for the home I purchased. This experience with Trevor Ramage was organized and efficient and I would highly recommend him to anyone looking to buy or sell a property.

As a first time homebuyer, Trevor was an instrumental part of my purchasing process. He was patient, kind and empathetic when I initially started my search. I chose to back off for a bit and I never felt any pressure - just support for whatever decision I felt was best. Fast forward several months down the road when I’d decided I was really ready to purchase and Trevor was there to guide me every step of the way. I trusted his professional advice and excellent listening skills, helping me ensure I made the best choice for me. He was always an email or a phone call away if I had a question or was uncertain about something. I can’t imagine going through this process without him on my team. Trevor has a wealth of knowledge about the industry and the city, and it’s clear how much he cares about the people he works with!

Trevor has helped my parents buy and sell several homes. Naturally, Trevor was our first choice when it was time for my partner and me to look for our first home. We could not have been happier with the service we received. Trevor was insightful, knowledgeable, and trustworthy. He always had our best interests at heart and helped steady the ship as we traversed this exciting, but also intimidating, process. His experience was evident in many respects, but in particular when it came time to negotiate and finalize the terms of the deal. He ensured we got the best possible price and brought our attention to any points of concern along the way. Trevor is a stalwart professional and we recommend him without reservation.

Thank you for your patience, good guidance and professionalism throughout the process of my house sale and new purchase. Without your presence, I would have been lost. You ensured that my house was ready for sale at the right time and for the right price. The sale was quick as a result of your knowledge of the market. As well, you smoothed over any hiccups. I could not be happier with your service and would not hesitate to recommend you to friends and family. You have my complete trust. Please feel free to share this on your website. Thank you for the amazing housewarming gift basket. Every piece was so perfect for me and my home. I loved it. With kindest regards, sincerely.

We worked with Trevor to buy a house in Calgary upon our return from being in another country for 16 years. Trevor sold us our starter home in 2000 and he was an obvious choice upon our return. Trevor was tireless in showing us multiple houses in multiple neighborhoods. His insight on communities, house construction & mechanical systems, not to mention being able to unlock the lock boxes on -26 C evenings, were huge benefits. We have moved into our new house and couldn’t be happier with the whole relationship. Well done Trevor.

We had the opportunity to work with Trevor on a recent home purchase where he was the listing agent. His knowledge of the property and the market in general was second to none, providing guidance to us every step of the way. He facilitated the transaction expertly for both we as the buyer and the seller, whom he also represented. He ensured both parties were treated fairly, finding creative solutions to assist in all cases. Trevor has a great disposition, was always courteous and made himself available ongoing. I would encourage all others to work with him go forward, if seeking superior insight and representation.

First Class responsive attentive value-adding real estate professional. Always provided sound advice in difficult market circumstances. Many thanks Trevor.

I have lived in my house for almost 30 years, this was supposed to be my starter house. However being a single parent and in bad economic times, I felt it wasn’t possible for me to move. Being very unhappy for years in the very old, small house, requiring constant major repairs, was not what I wanted for me or my family. Trevor was referred to myself. I contacted him and he spared no time in seeing me. I was apprehensive, scared and not confident in the thought that someone could sell my home. He had a buyer the next day. Honestly, my selling process was intense, not due to anything Trevor did but the buyers. When an issue came up Trevor was on it, providing me another option or another potential purchaser. Honestly, I was amazed at his dedication, energy and passion to help me obtain my goal. As a result, I trusted him and would definitely refer Trevor to assist others and have. Not only did he deal with the issues of selling my current home, he was completely available to show me homes to purchase. I was in a hurry, I think it was 2 weeks when he showed me the place I am in now. I am ecstatic, very happy, I love this place. Now this feels like home. My family loves it, even my dogs, if you can believe that. Thank You Trevor for taking the time and having the passion to work with me. Wishing you all the best to you and your family!

Over the past 20 years, Trevor has helped us buy and sell three homes in Calgary. That kind of loyalty is not easily earned. But we have stayed with Trevor because of his knowledge of the market, his professionalism, and quite frankly, because he is a decent guy who always has the interests of his clients in mind. Buying and selling a house is stressful. Trevor works hard to get the sale, keeps things calm, and offers trusted advice. These are the qualities you always want in a realtor.

We have now used Trevor as our agent for two purchase and sale transactions and are very thankful that we did. Trevor is always available and quickly answers any questions or concerns we had. He is truly an advocate for his clients and has a wealth of knowledge about the market. Trevor patiently worked with us over many years of looking for the perfect property for our family. He was never pushy and was frank and honest when asked about a property. Trevor is a family man and took genuine interest in getting to know our family. What has most impressed us, however, is that his service did not stop with the sale. We had purchased a newly built property and he has been actively involved in ensuring that any deficiencies have been fixed and that we are happy with our purchase. We have recommended Trevor to friends and would recommend him to you as well. Trevor has exceeded all our expectations as a realtor and we cannot speak highly enough about all he has done for our family. Thank you, Trevor!

We are very happy to have Trevor as our realtor. Trevor helped us to buy our first home. We trusted and relied on Trevor all the time. He was very patient in showing us many houses in one community for one whole year, but, we didn’t buy any of them. Eventually, based on our independent research, we targeted a new community and moved on. During the whole process, he was always with us and never pushed us on any of the properties. He respected our decision and tried to understand our needs. During each visit, Trevor was always on time, available and gave us his own opinion according to his rich experience. Trevor always thought of us all the time. When it came time to write an offer, Trevor guided us through step by step, negotiated the offer for us based on our budget and choice, and provided key contacts for home inspection and lawyer services, and so on. We were worry-free on any important deadlines. On the moment of receiving the keys, we were excited, and felt really grateful to Trevor, our realtor for our first home in Canada. In sum, there are a few words that we’d like to say about Trevor. He shows respect, understanding and patience all the time. He gives opinions when you need to understand a house and a community, but, never pushes you on any property. Our family members feel comfortable and have lots of fun talking with Trevor, and trust him all the time. We feel lucky to have Trevor with us.

What I liked most about working with Trevor is that he personally answers his phone and you don’t have to go through multiple assistants or digital recordings. If he was unavailable to answer the call he would definitely respond in a timely manner. Always friendly and cheerful!

Trevor,

Thanks very much for selling my house. You are exceptional at what you do. I have worked in the one sector of the financial field for years and understood.Yet your knowledge and expertise in the Real Estate market shone through clearly and made the whole process straightforward and stressless . I am particularly thankful that you understood my fears, hesitances and was not dismissive when I asked uninformed questions. You really did focus on my needs and concerns and was there every step of the way and explained the pros and cons of the various offers and situations I was presented with. You were business like yet thoughtful and caring and for these reasons I would recommend you to any one buying or selling.

We had the pleasure of buying our first home with Trevor as our Realtor, and we couldn’t be happier! Needless to say we had many questions, and Trevor was readily available, committed and patient throughout the whole process. We appreciate the knowledge and insight he offers when making the hard decisions, along with his straightforward approach.

We were extremely impressed when it came to negotiating the sale of the house. Trevor exceeded our expectations, and was able to get us exactly what we wanted with no delays. We are pleased to say we trust Trevor and his sentiments based on the years of experience he brings from working in the industry. Whether it was insight into the homes we viewed, the contacts he suggested in closing the sale or his comprehensive understanding of the business.

Thanks Trevor!

Trevor made the buying and selling experience as easy as it could be- straightforward, forthright and extremely knowledgeable, we were thankful for using Trevor. Trevor sat down with us and quickly understood what criteria were important to us and then used his expertise to focus our search on those homes which really fit our needs. The buying process was straightforward. Trevor shined during negotiations, he focused the offer on elements that were important to us. Through closing, Trevor was there every step of the way, always readily available to chat and discuss even the most minute details. When we went to sell, Trevor’s knowledge and experience was relied upon and we were able to leverage that into a quick sale (3 days on the market) and sold for above asking.

In the end, Trevor provided fantastic service and was always very positive and enjoyable to work with. We can’t recommend him enough and while we hope not to move again for a while- we'd surely use Trevor if we did.

Thanks Trevor!

The most professional and focused realtor I have dealt with in recent memory.

Trevor did a great job with the sale of our house - professional photos and measurement and spot on marketing. He was always available via text which I appreciated and did a great job to get competing offers and closing close to our list price.

Our experience with Trevor has been nothing short of suburb professionalism backed by ample experience. We have worked with Trevor more than once and will continue to do so. Whether you are purchasing or selling he always gets the job done and puts his client’ interests first. Thanks again!

Trevor made the selling of our home easy. Trevor's knowledge of the market and his experience within the industry gave us confidence that our home would sell without any issues. We were able to ask questions via text or email and his quick responses let us know that we weren't just another client but a valued client. In addition to Trevor's personal support, he utilizes online signing of documents which eliminates the extra meetings and late night signatures that were required in our situation. This made it less stressful for our family and allowed the closing process to be completed quickly and efficiently.

We were first time home buyers and didn’t really know what we wanted or how it all works. Trevor was very professional and courteous and answered all our questions and never once made us feel confused or rushed in the process. We never felt like we were too little of clients for him. He was extremely helpful and pointed out things in houses that we would never have thought to look at. Trevor made sure we understood everything from re-sell value, to traffic noise, to the layout. We felt we could trust him completely with such a huge financial decision. Finding the perfect house was an enjoyable experience and we’ve already started recommending him to friends. We would definitely contact Trevor again for any future real estate endeavours.

Trevor has helped our growing family in the sale and purchase of two homes in Hillhurst/Briar Hill. He is the expert of real estate in this area and a complete professional through the whole process. Thanks Trevor for making it easy to trust you with finding us the perfect home (at the right price)... we didn't know how much we would love the house and the community!

Trevor was referred to us by a family member. We were looking to purchase a house as a rental property near the University/SAIT and Trevor was very knowledgeable about the area and the zoning implications that might affect us. Although our search didn’t take very long, Trevor was helpful, available and the process was efficient with his guidance. Trevor is friendly and personable and we look forward to working with him again in the future.

We have been working with Trevor for the past 5 years. We are a boutique custom home builder and Trevor has been instrumental in our successful marketing program for the rapid selling of our new homes. We are a very demanding builder as our clients have very high standards and Trevor is knowledgeable in all types of homes but he is especially knowledgeable in new home construction. It is encouraging to us when our sales agent visits the job site at least once a week. This work ethic is beneficial to us and our clients. Qualities that we expect in someone representing our homes are honesty, integrity, knowledge of product, good communication and after sale follow up, these are all attributes that Trevor possesses. Trevor fits our team very well and we see a long future for our relationship.

Trevor went above and beyond what we expected. His experience and understanding of the market, and his calmness was invaluable in helping us sell our home; especially, since we had already relocated to Victoria. He handled many details of our sale with us being remote and his personalized approach and focus made us feel like we were always his priority. Trevor was a pleasure to work with and we would recommend him to anyone.

We are extremely grateful to the CARDINAL team for guiding us through the complicated process of selling our home and buying a new one. Trevor works with the full spectrum of properties and markets and his expertise is obvious from day one. From the market evaluation, professional photos and well-written description to list our home, to the skilled negotiation to get us the best value possible on both transactions, we couldn't have asked for a better experience (and one heck of a welcome basket on possession day, too). Thanks, Trevor!

Trevor is simply the best at what he does. His experience, wealth of contacts and understanding of the market place is invaluable. His calm and professional approach filled us with confidence through the entire home selling experience. Trevor exceeded all of our expectations and we look forward to working with him again. Whether you are buying or selling having Trevor at your side is the best decision you could make.

Trevor has worked closely with me as well as with my extended family for 10+ years, buying and selling our family homes and rental properties. Personally I have dealt with him on 7 different transactions either to purchase or to sell a property. Trevor has proven to be consistently honest and reliable. I consider him a friend whom I would never hesitate to refer to other friends looking to buy or to sell their homes.

Over the years, we have bought and sold over 6 homes with Trevor Ramage and each of those times he’s delivered on his promises. For our family, its Trevor’s ability to understand the market, develop a strategy, cultivate sales activity while keeping us calm and informed throughout the process. Buying and selling a home is extremely stressful; however, the simple fact that we’ve gone through the process so many times with Trevor is a testament to his professionalism, honesty, and his ability to execute in all types of markets.

Trevor is a real estate expert and helped us find a great property in our target neighborhood. He worked hard to ensure we found the perfect location to build our dream home.

I have known Trevor for more than twenty-five years and I have successfully completed five real estate transactions with his guidance. He is a top notch real estate professional who's business is built on knowledge, service and integrity.

Trevor Ramage provides honest service. We have bought 2 houses (1999 & 2008) with Trevor and sold 3 (2001, 2005 & 2008). Each time our goals were met with outstanding service. We recommend Trevor as a professional Realtor.

I have worked with Trevor on several successful real estate transactions over the past 5 years. His integrity, and commitment to his clients, is clear. He has always been available and prompt to respond to any questions, and provides knowledgeable guidance along the way. He has consistently gone above and beyond expectations. I won’t hesitate to contact Trevor again in the future, and recommend him highly.

We have worked with Trevor as our Realtor over the past 15 years as both buyers and sellers. Trevor is knowledgeable, honest, and highly committed to his clients. Most importantly, Trevor has always delivered results beyond our expectations. We would highly recommend Trevor to anyone in the need for a true Real Estate Professional.

I have known Trevor Ramage, of Cardinal by Trevor Ramage, for over 10 years. During that period, he successfully completed 6 property real estate deals for me. My experience with Trevor has been very positive.

His professionalism, knowledge, honesty, hard work ethic and efficiency are much respected and appreciated. Above all, he is very smart and pleasant to work with. I highly recommend his services to anyone looking to buy or sell a property.

We have known Trevor for over 20 years and he has helped us with three transactions, each at an important decision point in our lives. We needed someone that could help us make a good decision. His integrity, honesty and knowledge make him the perfect partner for us. It has always been clear that his objective is to help us make the best decision possible, I am sure we will ask for his help again!